Curse

Blind Rage · Aug 31, 2006, 04:36 AM // 04:36

okay, they should have called the assassin profession " staff boy" or something else... you dont happen to think that the assassin class was named that because they are designed to what the definition says? Like how ritualists perform rituals.

silverwyng · Aug 31, 2006, 05:19 AM // 05:19

i think what the OP is trying to say is that this is what he uses to cap with henchies. i believe [or rather would like to believe] that he uses another sin build so missions and getting through cantha.

Desires · Aug 31, 2006, 05:20 AM // 05:20

You make it seem like its hard to survive as a melee sin and if thats what you think you must be a really crappy player as with the right build and skills(player skills not the little pictures in your skill bar you can easily survive constant melee combat while still spiking down enemies one at a time.

Russell.Crowe · Aug 31, 2006, 05:26 AM // 05:26

Best thing to help you get survivor: a brain.

It seems most assassins lack this, so I'm just putting it out there. I made a sin, got survivor in 6 hours, and still haven't died. There is no need for any of these builds if you play smart.

Thanks to the thread maker for the ideas to help in areas where things can get pretty bad for an assassin.

Tainek · Aug 31, 2006, 09:26 AM // 09:26

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Originally Posted by Desires

You make it seem like its hard to survive as a melee sin and if thats what you think you must be a really crappy player as with the right build and skills(player skills not the little pictures in your skill bar you can easily survive constant melee combat while still spiking down enemies one at a time.

In the normal Progression of the game its an easy task, But when capping elites its a whole different Tune, Ala Double Dragon, You Can Be Hit for 350 Damage, Hit for 100 Damage By one of the three nearby mage mobs and Knocked down, and While your sitting on your ass Forcefed anouther 350 from double dragon, no Matter How Good you are usually, this bad luck can wtfpwn any assassin

these builds take bad luck out of the equasion

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Originally Posted by Blind Rage

okay, they should have called the assassin profession " staff boy" or something else... you dont happen to think that the assassin class was named that because they are designed to what the definition says? Like how ritualists perform rituals.

So I Suppose no class should ever use its secondary, Ritualists better not minion Bomb, Mesmers Better not Air Spike, Rangers shouldnt be touching, it says clearly in the name theyre for ranged combat!

The Assassin was named as such because that was its intended use, intended=! the only use, they day i cant use my brain and my seconary proffession to perform a different task is the day i (and many others) leave gw

Seriously get a clue

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Originally Posted by silverwyng

i think what the OP is trying to say is that this is what he uses to cap with henchies. i believe [or rather would like to believe] that he uses another sin build so missions and getting through cantha.

Correct, you get a cookie for reading correctly

Desires · Aug 31, 2006, 01:32 PM // 13:32

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Originally Posted by Tainek

In the normal Progression of the game its an easy task, But when capping elites its a whole different Tune, Ala Double Dragon, You Can Be Hit for 350 Damage, Hit for 100 Damage By one of the three nearby mage mobs and Knocked down, and While your sitting on your ass Forcefed anouther 350 from double dragon, no Matter How Good you are usually, this bad luck can wtfpwn any assassin

these builds take bad luck out of the equasion

Actauly my build does best against the "wtfpwn" type casters.

sajuuk · Sep 01, 2006, 06:37 AM // 06:37

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So I Suppose no class should ever use its secondary

Well... Nobody said that, thats your own assumption. Nobody went that far, but you are going to the extreme. In reality, the Ranger and Assassin are both pretty self-sufficient professions.

If I am "reading correctly", a phrase that you mentioned frequently, these builds are in your opinion the better builds. Nobody said your builds don't work, its just that your build does not manifest the enssence of being an assassin profession, is there something wrong with that statement? When it is just your own opinion, expect the opposite to appear. Not everyone think like you do right? So why can't you listen to the reasons of everyone's opinion instead of bashing back every post?

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Oh and you Know i meant the Assassin Proffesion, not the Real life Equivelant, Dont be Pretentious

I am not exaggerating anything, when you are called an Engineer, I am not expecting your job is to go to hospital and treat patients; Unless you alter the defination of the word, it is reasonable and logical to use a dictionary to "get a clue" of that word.

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Shadow Step In , Kill, Pop out IS Backline Spiking (Spiking the enemys Backline)

Oh, so thats what you meant by backline Spiking?! Not the stand behind and shooting arrows with barrage? Ok then I guess it will depend on what position you Shadow step in right? If I Step in enemys' backline then I am backline spiking, If I were to Step in the enemys' frontline I am fontline spiking.

Almost everyone of your builds has an elite skill in it, and most of it are in middle-late game. What build do you start off with when you have no elites?

Tainek · Sep 01, 2006, 08:12 AM // 08:12

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Originally Posted by sajuuk

Well... Nobody said that, thats your own assumption. Nobody went that far, but you are going to the extreme. In reality, the Ranger and Assassin are both pretty self-sufficient professions.

If I am "reading correctly", a phrase that you mentioned frequently, these builds are in your opinion the better builds. Nobody said your builds don't work, its just that your build does not manifest the enssence of being an assassin profession, is there something wrong with that statement? When it is just your own opinion, expect the opposite to appear. Not everyone think like you do right? So why can't you listen to the reasons of everyone's opinion instead of bashing back every post?

I am not exaggerating anything, when you are called an Engineer, I am not expecting your job is to go to hospital and treat patients; Unless you alter the defination of the word, it is reasonable and logical to use a dictionary to "get a clue" of that word.

Oh, so thats what you meant by backline Spiking?! Not the stand behind and shooting arrows with barrage? Ok then I guess it will depend on what position you Shadow step in right? If I Step in enemys' backline then I am backline spiking, If I were to Step in the enemys' frontline I am fontline spiking.

Almost everyone of your builds has an elite skill in it, and most of it are in middle-late game. What build do you start off with when you have no elites?

Backline and frontline are terms often used in high end pvp, the front line would be Warriors, and half-a whole aggro bubble back is the backline (Monks, memsers, eles, ect), it doesnt nessicarrly mean actually positions. if your spiking the frontline warriors as an assassin i worry

and a suprisingly apt example, i personally am trained as an Engineer, but also now as a paramedic (one year of uni left)

i never said it was the assassins job to do anything other than kill, i did however say that he Could do other things

and as for my build for before i get these elites (and for if not Skill capping a nasty boss, i dont bother using these for all bosses, just the nasty buggers)

Unsuspecting Strike
Golden Lotus Strike (E-Management, negates cost of AoD)
Fox Fangs
Twisting Fangs
Shadow Refuge
Critical Eye
Aura Of Displacement
Rez Sig

12 Dagger
13 Critcal
9 Shadow

Mark Nevermiss · Sep 01, 2006, 08:18 AM // 08:18

I dont see a problem capturing elite skills with a dagger wieldiing assassin in a hench group. You need a bow for the first attack/calling of first target ---> your warrior henchies go in take the aggro then you switch to daggers and join them.
My A/Mo uses vigorous spirit & healing breeze to stay alive when healing is not forthcoming from the healer henchgirls, and its working very well - sometimes even better than with my ranger.
Anyway to each his/her own I guess.

Tainek · Sep 01, 2006, 08:29 AM // 08:29

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Originally Posted by Mark Nevermiss

I dont see a problem capturing elite skills with a dagger wieldiing assassin in a hench group. You need a bow for the first attack/calling of first target ---> your warrior henchies go in take the aggro then you switch to daggers and join them.
My A/Mo uses vigorous spirit & healing breeze to stay alive when healing is not forthcoming from the healer henchgirls, and its working very well - sometimes even better than with my ranger.
Anyway to each his/her own I guess.

Its more to protect from the nasty spikes of damage you can end up taking